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General APAS Installations
Hello Thomas,
Thank you for your message. There are no secrets to the calibration
process used by the Ariel Performance Analysis System (APAS). Typically,
most Ariel users utilize the well published Direct Linear Transformation
(DLT) algorithm for both 2D and 3D calibrations. In both situations, the
X, Y, and Z coordinates are all measured (in user-defined units)
relative to a single origin.
Two-dimensional calibration requires a minimum of 4 coplanar points that
encompass the area of activity to be analyzed. Obviously, the activity
should then take place in the calibrated plane for the most accurate
results.
Three-dimensional analysis requires a minimum of 6 non-coplanar points
(though 18 to 24 points are recommended) that encompass the area of
activity to be analyzed. There is no specific calibration object that
must be used.
Often a rectangular calibration frame is used for this purpose. Others
may hang strings from the ceiling with each string having several
calibration points. Sometimes and object in the field of view may be
used for calibration points... for example, designated points on a
treadmill. The only requirement is that the coordinates of the points
are measured accurately from a single origin.
The calibration points are usually recorded by all cameras before and
after the desired activity. This ensures a good calibration view even if
the camera is bumped or moved during the activity. Then during the
digitizing process, each calibration point is digitized by the user.
These digitized coordinates are then input into the DLT algorithm for
the calibration process.
Ariel Dynamics Inc was also the first to introduce a Physical Parameter
Transformtion (PPT) algorithm that can be used for standard 3D analysis
or with panning cameras. Panning camera analysis is performed with out
any extra hardware but simply by using two calibration cubes.... one at
each end of the panning range. This work was presented at an XIV
International Society of Biomechanics meeting in Paris, 1993.
I hope this helps to answer your questions.
Sincerely,
John Probe
Ariel Dynamics, Inc.
Email: ARIEL1@ix.netcom.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Klein" <tm.klein@web.de>
To: <info@arielnet.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 8:41 AM
Subject: Camera calibration
> Hello,
>
> I'm a sports science student at the TU Darmstadt and currently working
on
my diploma thesis dealing with possiblities and restrictions of
different
approaches for geometrical camera calibration applied wrt motion
analysis
purposes.
> I would like to include a chapter giving an overview of the
calibration
procedures provided by the most commonly used commercial systems, but
could
only find very rare information concerning this issue on your homepage.
>
> Therefore I'd like to ask some questiones about the calibration
procedures
implemented in your system.
> I will greatly appreciate any information you can provide me with and
of
course I'm aware that you can't share
> detailed information about implementational details concerning your
commercial software.
>
> Here is a list of my questiones:
>
> - What kind of camera model is used (do you include parameters
modelling
linear and non-linear distorsion effects?)
> - Is it possible for the user to choose between several modells, e.g.
including or excluding distorsion parameters?
> - Do you use any other techniques for distorsion correction?
> - What kind of calibration object/frame is needed
> -> known 3D points like a cubic reference frame,
> -> plane based calibration, e.g. with a checkerboard pattern
> -> calibration waving a wand attached with one or more markers
> -> ...
> - How should the user perform calibration of a stereo- or multi camera
system (step by step tutorial)
> - Does your system support panning, zooming and what kind of
additional
equipment/information is needed to perform
> these tasks.
>
> Thank you very much in advance.
>
> regards,
>
> Thomas Klein
>
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Hello Alexei,
Thank you for your message and interest in the Ariel Performance
Analysis System (APAS). I will provide answers below each of your
questions. Please review the information and feel free to contact me for
any additional questions.
Sincerely,
John Probe
Ariel Dynamics, Inc.
Email: ARIEL1@ix.netcom.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexei Gritai" <agritsay@cs.ucf.edu>
To: <ariel1@ix.netcom.com>
Cc: <gideon@arielnet.com>
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:45 PM
Subject: APAS system
> Hello,
>
> my name is Alexei Gritai, I'm a Ph.D. student and doing research in
human
action
> analysis. I've found your APAS system is very interesing. I have some
technical
> questions. I would be very thankful if you could answer them or give
me
any
> references where I could find the answers.
>
> 1. From the picture of your system it seems that you use some regular
cameras to
> capture human motion. In case of the fast human motion do you use high
speed
> cameras? If you use only regular cam coders so how do you use them to
capture
> fast human motion?
>
ADI: The APAS can be used with any video camera. The only requirement is
that the video is captured to Microsoft compatible AVI format for
digitizing. Most all APAS customers use standard "off-the-shelf"
commercial
quality video camcorders. These record in standard NTSC (60 Hz) video
format. This is fast enough to quantify most all human motion. If you
wish
to study ball impacts, bats, golf clups etc. then you would require a
higher
speed camera. The same APAS system could be used for the analysis.
> 2. Is your system can be used for analysis of any fast human motion or
only for
> some predefined ones? It is very impressive that your system can fit
accurately
> a skeleton model.
>
ADI: The APAS can be used to quatify motion of ANY video recorded
activity.
The APAS is a 3D video-based movement analysis system which accurately
quantifies function and provides objective data the professional may use
to
justify or evaluate treatment. Areas of successful application for the
APAS
include human performance, injury and rehabilitation assessment,
quantification of loss for compensation claims, equipment and product
testing and development, determination of potential or actual risks for
products and activities in liability litigation, as well as applied
research
in the areas of orthopedic medicine, therapeutics, and physical
training.
> Thank you very much,
>
> --
> Alexei Gritai
Dear Dr. Gideon Ariel,
first of all, a huge thanks to you for you reply. After I checked the
first link I've realized to whom I sent email, and from whom I got the
reply. I lost a word, and still cann't believe in it. Like Bob Beamon,
who made the historical jump, you made a miracle in human motion
analysis ever. I'm going to ask my adviser to contact you. Once again,
thank you very much for your time and for your genious contribution in
science.
Alexei Gritai
Quoting Gideon Ariel <gideon@macrosport.com>:
> Dear Alexei:
>
> I will answer between the lines:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexei Gritai [mailto:agritsay@cs.ucf.edu]
> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:46 PM
> To: ariel1@ix.netcom.com
> Cc: gideon@arielnet.com
> Subject: APAS system
> Hello,
> my name is Alexei Gritai, I'm a Ph.D. student and doing research in
> human action
>
> analysis. I've found your APAS system is very interesing. I have some
> technical
>
> questions. I would be very thankful if you could answer them or give
> me any
>
> references where I could find the answers.
> 1. From the picture of your system it seems that you use some regular
> cameras to
>
> capture human motion. In case of the fast human motion do you use high
> speed
>
> cameras? If you use only regular cam coders so how do you use them to
> capture
>
> fast human motion?
>
> You can use any cameras you want. Last year I collected data at 10,000
> fps on tennis impact.
>
> You can use any camera you wish. You can even mix high speed with low
speed.
> 2. Is your system can be used for analysis of any fast human motion or
> only for
>
> some predefined ones? It is very impressive that your system can fit
> accurately
>
> a skeleton model.
>
> We analyzed pilots inside F-16 in the Israeli Air force at 15 miles
> per hour.
>
> We analyzed an arrow penetrate an apple and froze the frame without
> any blur.
>
> So, there is no speed limitation to the system. However, depends on
> which camera you use and at what variable shutter speed to get what
you need.
>
> Check some of the studies at:
>
> /media/
>
> and some of the studies at:
>
> /media/articles.aspx
>
>
>
> Good luck
>
> Gideon Ariel, Ph.D.
>
> / </>
> Thank you very much,
> Alexei Gritai
>
>
>
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>
> e-mail: agritsay@cs.ucf.edu
>
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>
> SEECS
> University of Central Florida
> 4000 Central Florida Blvd
> Computer Science Building (Building No 54)
> Room 103
> Orlando, FL 32816
>
> Phone: (407)823-4733
> e-mail: agritsay@cs.ucf.edu
> http://www.cs.ucf.edu/~agritsay/
Hi Tony:
Was nice to hear from you.
The procedure to generate a site code is as follows:
1. You get into the APAS system as shown below:
2. Then you need to dubble click on any
of the icons. For example on the APASview to receive the following:
You must press the enter key before the module is totally
executed. You do not wait for the module to be executed. You press the
APASview and in less then one second press the enter key once or twice.
You will get the following:
3. Now you press on the "display site
code" and receive the following:
4. You press "Yes" you do not want to
see the license agreement unless you are bored.
You will get the following by pressing
'Yes"
5. The next is only to generate the code
by pressing: "Display Site Code" By doing it you will get the following:
6. You need to email us the site code
shown.
Then we will generate the site key for
you to insert in the document above.
We must use this method
since it is un beatable since it is hardware dependent. In most cases
you must do it on our own hardware.
But in your case I will
release this requirement. This way no one can copy us including the
Chinease.
Many try to copy the code
everyday but they cannot. In fact it is so smart that they think they
did but all the results they get from the APAS are off by a random
factor and all their publication are erroneous.
Hope this work for you my
friend.
--
Thank you for your
message. I will explain below
For each segment, there
is a center of mass location as defined as a
fractional distance between the endpoints. The C.M. is then defined
as:
SUM(mass[i]*xyz[i])
/ SUM(mass[i])
If you look at the SEQUENCE information for a project & click the
SEGMENTS
button, one by one all the segments defined in the project along
with the
joints defining the segments, a fractional distance between the
endpoints for
the segment CG, and the mass of the segment normally expressed as a
percent of
the total body mass. You have the option to use default values
or you can specify
whatever segmental model you wish.
The center of mass for the entire body is then
defined as the average of the
segmental center of masses weighted by the fractional mass of each
segment
Thus:
Xcom=SUM(mass[i]*x[i]) / SUM(mass[i])
Ycom=SUM(mass[i]*y[i]) / SUM(mass[i])
Xcom=SUM(mass[i]*z[i]) / SUM(mass[i])
where the sum is over all segments and x[i],y [i],
z[i] are the [x,y,z]
coordinates of the ith segment cm, and mass[i] is the mass of the
ith segment.
I hope this helps to
answer your question.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 10:41 PM
My name is xx and I work as
an undegraduate research assistant at the biomechanics
lab at the Wingate institute in Israel.
I am having difficulties in
understanding the procedure for calculation of whole
body CG location, displacement, etc. and could not find
relevant information in your manuals.
My basic question - how do I accomplish
this task?
I apoligize for consuming your time on
such a basic question - but hey ,what can one do?
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Thank you for your message.
I will provide answers below each of your questions.
Please contact us for any
additional information.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kathleen.Costa@usoc.org
[mailto:Kathleen.Costa@usoc.org]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:14 PM
To: gideon@arielnet.com
Subject: Model points?
Gideon -
I am at the point of digitizing a trial, and I've got a few questions
for you.
1) What points do i use for toe & heel? Right now i have the "foot"
point in twice.
ADI: The standard
points use only a "toe" and "ankle" marker. However, if you would like to
define the foot a little better, you can add an "extra" point for the heel
and therefore represent the foot with a triangle shape. The process of
adding "extra" points is explained in the pull-down help file within the
Digitize module. I believe we did this when you came to our office.
2) C7 marker id? & Vertex marker id? How do i change these, or what do i
use to identify these points?
ADI: These are
not standard points so they would have to be added as "extra" points
also. The APAS allows you to define any points that you desire for
digitizing. You could start with the SYSTEM DEFINED points to label the
standard points and connections. Then switch to the USER DEFINED points
to add the extra points and connections. Once you have done this for the
first sequence, this information can be copied for all future sequences by
using the "READ" option in the Sequence Information menu.
3) Does the program have segment parameters for both male & female
athletes? Or do i have to input all segment parameters on my own?
ADI: The APAS
software does not distinguish between male and female athletes. Once the
points are defined using the System Defined points, the APAS software (by
default) uses data from DEMPSTER for the segmental parameters. The user
has the option to change these parameters at any time by selecting the
SEGMENTS button from the Sequence Information Menu. If you use the
USER-DEFINED points option, then you would have to enter your own
information.
4) How do i identify segments, such as "L shank" is
connected between "L
knee" and "L ankle"?
ADI: These are
standard connections and are input automatically when using the System
Defined points. When using the User-Defined points, you would have to
make the desired connections using the SEGMENTS button from the Sequence
Information menu. Each point can be connected with up to 5 other points
as long as they are lower number. For example, point 1 does not connect
to any other point since there are no points lower than number 1. Point 2
could connect to point 1. Point 3 could connect to point 1 and/or 2....
etc.
5) How does the program calculate TBCM location once i am
done
digitizing?
ADI: The APAS
software utilizes the segmental information to compute the CG of the
digitized points. If you digitized the entire body, the calculated value
would be the CG of the entire body. If you only digitized the arm, the
calculated CG would be the CG of the arm segments.
Hi Al
Nice to speak with you.
In order to use a laptop, you must meet the following requirements:
1. Be using APAS XP (I am sure you are)
2. Have a laptop speed of over 1.0 gh (higher the better) 3. Be using
Windows 2000 or XP Home (XP Professional does not work- there problem with
microsoft and multiple grabbing in Professional) 4. You must have a frame
grabbing card for each camera. This means two pcmcia cards (if your slots
are stacked, you need one with a dongle.) You cannot plug two cameras into
one card, even though it may have multiple ports. Even plugging to cameras
into one card may preclude your getting a signal from the IEEE port.
The only time I had a problem was when first attempting to do capture with a
laptop. It took me months of research to discover it was windows XP. They
did not carry the ability to do multiple cameras. THey later fixed the
problem in the home edition but to the best of my knowledge, not the
Professional version. I have also had occasional problems with firewires
over 15 feet in multiple camera situations (depends upon the power of the
computer). However, I have used firewires up to 75 feet on a strong desktop.
I use laptop capture, three cameras every day of the week and sports at 5
cameras on the desktop (have not gone to 6 yet). All work without fail.
I strongly suspect your version of windows. Please let me know and feel free
to write me directly.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gideon Ariel" <gideon@macrosport.com>
To: "'Alfred Finch'" <Pmfinch@isugw.indstate.edu>
Cc: "JP" <john@arielnet.com>; "Bob Wainwright" <kincon@bellatlantic.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 1:20 AM
Subject: RE: Trying to get multiple DV cameras capturing
> Hi Al:
> You must have the proper speed for the firewire to work on multiple
> cameras. Bob Wainwright using 3 on his laptop with no problems and 6 on
his
> desk top.
> I will let him write you the detail
> Nice for you to meet with these people. I recommended you to them as you
> know in few of the cases.
> I will let also John respond.
> Gideon
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alfred Finch [mailto:Pmfinch@isugw.indstate.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 8:03 AM
> To: gideon@arielnet.com
> Subject: Trying to get multiple DV cameras capturing
>
> Hi Gideon,
>
> I have been trying to get multiple DV cameras to capture on my laptop
> using the CapDV. I have used the 1394 port that is built in on my Dell
> and then I am using an Compaq firewire 2 port cardbus or a SIIG 2port
> firewire cardbus. I can get the capDV & firewire to work 1 at a time
> using either the 1394 port, SIIG cardbus or Compaq cardbus but I can't
> get 2 or more cameras to work. Is there a trick to get these all to
> work. In your website you talk about having 5-6 cameras doing captures.
>
>
> Also, how and where is the autolocate that will capture and digitze
> realtime. I have Roy Gillaspie & his wife, physiotherapist from
> Vancouver, Canada who bought an APAS this year coming in November to see
> how I use the APAS for sport analyses and I would like to be able to
> have the APAS running 3 cameras with direct capture in order to create a
> gait lab that would be similar to a Motion analysis setup.
>
> Also, Andy Dainis called me and he is still working on the calibration
> technique for the APAS using his wand technique. He is sending me a wand
> and he wants me to shoot video at 60,120,240 hz and digitize using
> semi-automatic, automatic, and autolocate and then send the digitized t
> files to him for in order to verifiy his calibration method. Is there
> anything particular you would like me to set up or demonstrate/utilize
> for his trials. To use the autolocate where or what module is it
> included. From his discussion he has done the the wand calibration for
> Vicon & motion analysis system so I thought you would want the similiar
> application in order to compete, match or beat their capabilities. I'll
> also use the red cube for calibration, do you need anything else?
>
> I need your advice, my Dell APAS laptop work station has picked up a
> bunch of viruses and spyware on the Hard drive. The system tends to use
> a very high % of the cpu and sometimes it takes 15-20 minutes to bootup.
> The computer center techs tried to remove the viruses and spyware and
> they would like to reformat the hard drive. The computer APAS still
> works but it is sluggish. should I let them reformat or is it that the
> tech isn't really good enough to solve the problems and I need to talk
> to someone else. What would you do. Several athletic training students
> used the laptop while traveling and digitizing and I think they accessed
> the internet and then picked up all the shit. Otherwise this computer
> never plays on the internet except to download the APAS and it was the
> fastest and always clean until they borrowed it.
>
> Have a great day and I am sure you and Ann are going nuts with all the
> pre-wedding arrangements.
>
> Talk to you later.
> Al
>
Hello Hui-Ji,
Thank you for your message. I will provide answers below
each question. Please contact us for any additional information.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hui-Ji Fan" <huijif@yahoo.com>
To: <ariel1@ix.netcom.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 8:57 PM
Subject: questions
> Hi John,
> I have three questions.
> 1. Are APAS and APAS/Gait the same? If not, what is
> the difference?
>
ADI: These are two different products. The APAS is the Basic
Analysis System and supports 2D/3D analysis with automatic digitizing
capabilities.
The APAS Gait is an optional software module that supports
the industry standard marker sets (Helen Hayes and Keith Vaughn etc) for
lower body human gait analysis.
> 2. How do I connect the markers if I use Helen Hayes
> market set to get hip and knee flextion/extension,
> abduction/adduction, and rotation using APAS?
>
ADI: If you studies require this information, it would be
recommended to use the APAS-GAIT software option. If the Basic APAS is
utilized, you would have to define the marker sets and export the data to a
spreadsheet to manually perform the necessary calculations.
> 3. I am going to measure joint motion, EMG, and ground
reaction force
> at the same time. How do I synchronize those three
signals?
>
ADI: The easiest method for measuring these signals would be
to use the Ariel Analog Module with a force plate and EMG electrodes
connected. These signals would be automatically syncrhonized in this manner.
They could also be synchronized with the video data using a common signal
that is seen by both mediums. For example, the contact of the foot on the
force platform could be seen by the video and also detected on the force
plate signals.
> Thanks for your help!
> Hui-Ji
Thank you for your
message. The Basic APAS generates stick figures by connecting the
user-specified points. The Ariel 3D Renderer software module can
be used to superimpose a human skeleton or cylinders on the stick
figure. Additionally, the image can be simultaneously rotated and
animated through the digitized action. Traces can also be placed
on any point where the path of the point is color coded according to the
velocity.
All the product
information on the APAS is available on the Ariel internet site (/).
Specifically, information on the APAS 3D Renderer program can be found
at the following link.
You can even download
the full version of the APAS software (including Renderer and Gait) for
a FREE 30-day evaluation. The download instructions are listed
here.
Please review the
information and feel free to contact us for any additional questions.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 11:41 PM
I
have heard of your products before and was under the impression that
they rendered only stick figures. It seems as though they are render 3
dimensional figures. Please elablorate if I am correct as to changes
and advancements.
Hello Dr. Cairns,
Thank you for your message. I apologize for the delayed response.
I had
been out of town and am now catching up on my e-mail. I will provide
answers below each of your questions. Please contact me for any
additional
information.
Sincerely,
John Probe
Ariel Dynamics, Inc.
Email: ARIEL1@ix.netcom.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dr. Tom Cairns" <cairns@ens.utulsa.edu>
To: "Gideon Ariel" <ariel1@ix.netcom.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: APAS Questions
> John,
> The computer is in and set up and we have experimented a little with
the
> software. Here are some questions.
>
> 1. The 8 IEEE 1394 Ports at the bottom of the back plane are what we
use
> both for CAP DV capture and also for capture from MiniDV tapes. Is
that
> correct?
>
ADI: Yes, when using the CAPDV software module, each camera should
be
connected to a single card. This allows "real-time" video
capture direct to
the computer hard disk. This module also allows you to
synchronize and
trim all images simultaneously if desired.
If you have recorded images "off-site" or away from the
computer, the best
method would be to connect a single camera to any port and use the Studio
DV
software module to capture the video. Make certain that you do not
use the
"movie" options of the Studio DV software, you just need to
capture the
video and then exit. Open the TRIM module to trim and synchronize as
the
next step.
> 2. Can you recommend a good tutorial or reference on the experimental
and
> analytical methodology that we should know to get good results from
this
> kind of biomechanical experimentation?
>
ADI: There are several methods to learn the APAS software.
First, you can
view download the manuals direct from the Ariel internet site.
Second,
there is a tutorial (still in progress) on the web site that will take you
through the basic steps of an analysis. Third, you can use the
pull-down
help screens. The manuals are actually a full printout of the help
files.
> 3. Do we try to mount the lights on the camera, else how do we mount
them.
> How close to the camera does the light need to be?
>
ADI: The reflective markers are made with a special retro-reflective
tape.
This tape reflects light back in the same plane as transmitted.
Therefore,
the closer you can get the light to the camera viewing axis, the more
visible the markers will be. You can demonstrate this by placing a
marker
in the room and holding the light at arms length. Slowly move the
light
towards your eye while watching the marker. You will see that when
the
light is close to your eye, the marker appears the brightest.
I believe, there should be a mounting bracket that is included with the
light that allows the light to be mounted to the tripod and then the
camera
mounts above the bracket.
> 4. My recollection is that the downloading of the software to my
office
> computer is straightforward, after which I have to get a code of some
kind.
> Is that correct?
>
ADI: If you plan to install workstation software on other computers,
you
can install directly from the APAS CD-ROM that was included with your
system
or you can download the software from the internet. In the blue
folder
included with the computer, you should have instructions for installing
workstation software. I have attached the sheet in case you do not
have it.
> 5. I downloaded and printed the entire set of documentation I found
on the
> web site. It doesn't seem to have anything on CAPDV. Am I missing
something
> or is the use obvious.
>
ADI: The CAPDV module is relatively new so the manual for this has
not made
it to the internet yet. You can use the pull-down help files in the
CAPDV
software module. Or, if you desire, I could attach the manual to an
e-mail
message. Just let me know.
> 6. Question 5 again with regard to other programs in the package for
which
> there is no chapter in the documentation, for example, the EMG
Module.
>
ADI: The EMG module is actually a subset of the DISPLAY module.
Early in
the development stages, the EMG module was separate. In your version
of
software, everything that is included in the EMG module is also included
in
the DISPLAY module. In other words, you don't really need the EMG
module.
The EMG module will actually be deleted from the APAS in the near future.
> Thanks. The system looks like all I expected and more and I'm eager
to
> become good at using it.
>
> Tom
>
Thank you for your interest
in the Ariel Performance Analysis System (APAS). The APAS is a 3D
video-based movement analysis system which accurately quantifies
function and provides objective data the professional may use to justify
or evaluate treatment. Areas of successful application for the
APAS include human performance, injury and rehabilitation assessment,
quantification of loss for compensation claims, equipment and product
testing and development, determination of potential or actual risks for
products and activities in liability litigation, as well as applied
research in the areas of orthopedic medicine, therapeutics, and physical
training.
The APAS integrates state-of-the-art computer and video processing
hardware with specialized software modules that perform data collection,
analysis, and presentation. Objective quantifiable documentation
is provided for both 2-Dimensional and 3-Dimensional analysis.
Specific points of interest can be digitized with user intervention or
automatically using contrasting markers. Stick figures are then
generated and can be synchronized with kinematics data.
Additionally, up to 32 channels of analog data (i.e. force platform, EMG,
goniometers etc.) can be synchronized with the kinematics data.
The APAS product information can be found on the Ariel internet site (/).
The direct address to several areas that might be of interest are listed
below.
APAS Product Information
/Main/adw-04.html
Comparison of Commercially Available Systems
/topics/comparison/default.htm
Selected Applications Of APAS
/Main/adw-85.html
Selected Publications Utilizing the Ariel Technology
/Main/adw-86.html
APAS Price List
/Main/adw-54.html
Purchasing Options
/topics/FAQ/Purchasing_Options.htm
You can even download a full version of the APAS for a free 30 day
trial.
Please review the information and feel free to contact us for any
additional questions.
Sincerely,
John Probe
Hello Laura,
Thank you for your interest in the Ariel Performance Analysis System (APAS).
The APAS is a 3D video-based movement analysis system which accurately
quantifies function and provides objective data the professional may use
to
justify or evaluate treatment. Areas of successful application for
the APAS
include human performance, injury and rehabilitation assessment,
quantification of loss for compensation claims, equipment and product
testing and development, determination of potential or actual risks for
products and activities in liability litigation, as well as applied
research
in the areas of orthopedic medicine, therapeutics, and physical
training.
The APAS integrates state-of-the-art computer and video processing
hardware
with specialized software modules that perform data collection,
analysis,
and presentation. Objective quantifiable documentation is provided
for both
2-Dimensional and 3-Dimensional analysis. Specific points of
interest can
be digitized with user intervention or automatically using contrasting
markers. Stick figures are then generated and can be synchronized
with
kinematics data. Additionally, up to 32 channels of analog data
(i.e. force
platform, EMG, goniometers etc.) can be synchronized with the kinematics
data.
The APAS was originally developed around sports and Olympic athletes
where
markers were not allowed. Thus, the APAS is ideally suited for the
2D
applications that you mention since no markers are required for the
analysis. Additionally, the video can be recorded
"in-the-field" using
standard camcorders and then brought back to the lab for analysis.
Or if
you prefer, the software can also operate on a notebook computer so the
analysis can be performed on-site.
The APAS product information can be found on the Ariel internet site
(/). The
direct address to several areas that might be of
interest are listed below.
APAS Product Information
/Main/adw-04.html
Comparison of Commercially Available Systems
/topics/comparison/default.htm
Selected Applications Of APAS
/Main/adw-85.html
Selected Publications Utilizing the Ariel Technology
/Main/adw-86.html
You can even download a full version of the APAS for a free 30 day
trial.
Please review the information and feel free to contact us for any
additional
questions.
Sincerely,
John Probe
Ariel Dynamics, Inc.
4885 Ronson Court, Suite A
San Diego, CA 92111
Tel: (858) 874-2547
Fax: (858) 874-2549
Email: ARIEL1@ix.netcom.com
Internet: /
----- Original Message -----
From: "Laura MacLatchy" <maclatch@bu.edu>
To: <ariel1@ix.netcom.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 1:17 PM
Subject: 2D kinematics
> I am interested in doing 2D kinematic analysis of wild primate
locomotion.
No
> markers are possible and only one camera will be used. Do you
have any
> suitable software?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Laura MacLatchy
> Department of Anthropology
> Boston University
> 232 Bay State Road
> Boston, MA 02215
> (617) 353-5026 (phone)
> (617) 353-2610 (FAX)
>
>
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 8:32 AM
could you send me a
brochure and a price list
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From: "Steve Stanley" <stephen.stanley@ait.ac.nz>
Organization: Auckland Institute of Technology
To: Gideon Ariel <ariel1@ix20.ix.netcom.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 08:50:13 +1200
Subject: Re: 2D analysis
Priority: normal
HI Gideon/John
Thanks for the weekend reply. Which files do I download off the
site, is it the full APASlight? or is there C3d files somewhere? I
could not find them. The file I originally unzipped was emailed from
John, not off the site.
Cheers Steve
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:12:57 -0800
To: "Steve Stanley" <stephen.stanley@ait.ac.nz>
From: Gideon Ariel <ariel1@ix20.ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: 2D analysis
Cc: john@arielnet.com
Hi Steve:
The fact that it is single file in a zip might cause the problems. What
happened when you just download new rev from our web site and intstall it?
I am in Texas now but on Monday I am going to put a new revision that
will fix all these little things that happened on few computers.
Let me know
Gideon
At 10:44 AM 11/21/98 +1200, you wrote:
>Hi John
>
>Yes I extracted the single c3d file into the same directory as the
>older file. The same thing happened it would start for about half a
>second putting up an "untitled C3D" banner accross the top and then
>all dissapear, no error mesage, no programme etc. I move the old
>file back in and it worked fine, swapped them around and no go, then
>the old file back again and it worked fine. There was only the C3D
>file included in the zip file, should there be any support files
>also, eg library files etc?
>
>Cheers Steve
>Stephen Stanley MPhEd (Dist)
>Research Officer
>Faculty of Health Studies
>Auckland Institute of Technology
>Private Bag 92006
>Auckland
>New Zealand
>Ph +64 9 3079999 ext 7177
>Fax +64 9 3079988
>
>
Stephen Stanley MPhEd (Dist)
Research Officer
Faculty of Health Studies
Auckland Institute of Technology
Private Bag 92006
Auckland
New Zealand
Ph +64 9 3079999 ext 7177
Fax +64 9 3079988
Return-Path: <stephen.stanley@ait.ac.nz>
From: "Steve Stanley" <stephen.stanley@ait.ac.nz>
Organization: Auckland Institute of Technology
To: Ariel <ariel1@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 10:44:29 +1200
Subject: Re: 2D analysis
Priority: normal
Hi John
Yes I extracted the single c3d file into the same directory as the
older file. The same thing happened it would start for about half a
second putting up an "untitled C3D" banner accross the top and then
all dissapear, no error mesage, no programme etc. I move the old
file back in and it worked fine, swapped them around and no go, then
the old file back again and it worked fine. There was only the C3D
file included in the zip file, should there be any support files
also, eg library files etc?
Cheers Steve
Stephen Stanley MPhEd (Dist)
Research Officer
Faculty of Health Studies
Auckland Institute of Technology
Private Bag 92006
Auckland
New Zealand
Ph +64 9 3079999 ext 7177
Fax +64 9 3079988
Hello Herb,
I will provide answers below each of your
questions.
Please feel free to contact me for any
additional information.
Sincerely,
John Probe
Ariel Dynamics, Inc.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 3:30 PM
Subject: RE: Will any sales people be at
the APTA combined sections meeting in San Antonio Feb 14 to 18th?
> So it looks like the force plate is
an additional $15,950? What are the
> Ariel Software Drivers--is that the basic software kit?
>
ADI: The Basic software
package includes the capability for both 2D and 3D analysis.
This software also supports automatic digitizing and support for
panning cameras. Analog capabilities (16 channel A/D, force
platform, EMG etc) and software drivers for the JVC high speed cameras
would be additional as listed below.
Basic 2D/3D
APAS (software only): $5,000.00
Basic 2D/3D
APAS (computer, frame grabber & software): $10,000.00
16 Channel
Analog Module (Hardware & Software): $9,000.00
Force
Platform (Hardware 7 Software): $15,950.00
EMG
Electrodes: $750.00 each
Ariel JVC
Software Drivers: $5,000.00
> What is the total cost if I wanted 2
highspeed cameras forceplate and
> software and I provided the computer hardware?
>
ADI: Based on the prices listed above, this costs
would be:
Basic APAS
Software Only: $5,000.00
2 JVC
Cameras (w/Software Drivers): $10,000.00
Force Plate
System (Hardware & Software): $15,950.00
Ariel 16
Channel Analog Module: $9,000.00
====================================
Total:
$39,950.00 USD
> What is the total cost of the system
that produced the golf swing analysis?
>
ADI: The Same APAS system can be used to analyze the
golf swing.
>
> Can this same setup be used for batting, pitching, etc?
>
ADI: Yes, this same system can be used to analyze
any movement that can be recorded to video.
> Are there any further requirements
for doing FCEs and clinical analysis of
> muscle fatigue/frequency shift spectrum analysis?
>
ADI: Please refer to the
following link for an FCE example using the APAS.
If you would like to
communicate directly with Bob Wainwright, his Email address is:
You would also require
electrodes for measuring the EMG activity.
> Does the included software allow for analysis needed for physical
therapy
> evaluations or is additional software required? I am most
interested in
> reproducing some of the work done by Serge Roy, et al, at the BU
kinesiology
> lab on back pain and I want to use that for FCEs as well?
>
ADI: Depending on the exact analysis you would be
providing, we also have the APAS-GAIT software module. This
software module supports the industry standard marker sets and
produces data in standard formats. The cost of this full module
is $4,995.00 and also includes the APAS Renderer module.
Additional information can be found at the following address:
> Thanks in advance for your answers.
>
> Herb Silver, PT
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ariel [mailto:ariel1@ix.netcom.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 12:30 PM
> To: Herb Silver
> Subject: Re: Will any sales people be at the APTA combined
sections
> meeting in San Antonio Feb 14 to 18th?
>
>
> Hello Herb,
>
> Thank you for your interest in the Ariel Performance Analysis
System (APAS).
> Currently, we are not scheduled to attend the APTA meeting in San
Antonio.
>
> There are many options for purchasing the APAS: Software
only, Software
> w/computer, software will all the hardware etc. The force
plate is not
> included with the Basic APAS. This would require the Basic
APAS, 16 Channel
> Analog Module, and Force Plate system.
>
> I have attached a price list for your review. Please feel
free to contact
> us for any additional information.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> John Probe
> Ariel Dynamics, Inc.
> Email: ARIEL1@ix.netcom.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Herb Silver" <hlsilver@mindspring.com>
> To: <ariel1@ix.netcom.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 6:04 PM
> Subject: Will any sales people be at the APTA combined sections
meeting in
> San Antonio Feb 14 to 18th?
>
>
> > I am looking into purchasing you APAS system. Does it
come with force
> > plates--if not, how much for this addition?
> >
> > Also, all the software listed for gait analysis, etc, the
site says "all
> > software included" but I was not sure if that was the
"basic software" or
> if
> > the list of software underneath was included as well.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
>
Return-Path: <dgordon@cyllene.uwa.edu.au>
From: "Don Gordon" <dgordon@cyllene.uwa.edu.au>
To: "Ariel" <ariel1@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: APAS-CES software
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:05:31 +0800
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Dear John I will remove the computer
from the rest of the system and transport it home to allow a modem connection with your
system. If you could please let us know your GMT so a mutual time can be set up. Perth in
Western Australia is at GMT +8.00. Sincerely Don
Gordon Electronic/Computer Technician Human Movement Department University of Western
Australia
If possible, we would like to avoid having the hard drive sent to our office. Just the
shipping charges will cost more than the drive is worth! Additionally, it opens the
possibility for loss or damage during shipment. It also means that your
"down-time" will be several weeks instead of several days.
Is it possible to connect to a fax line in the University? Or, possibly to move the
computer to another location that supports the modem connection (home or another office)?
Based on your description, it appears that we could correct the problem over the modem
in 15 or 20 minutes for no cost (other than the phone charges). Please let me know if this
is a possibility!
Sincerely,
John Probe
At 04:48 PM 11/19/98 +0800, you wrote:
>>>>
Dear John Thankyou for your prompt replies and the instructions for the use of the
closeup6 software. Unfortunately the University operates through a PBAX phone system where
modem connections are not available. After discussion with staff within the department it
has been decided to remove the hard drive from the AST computer and return the hard drive
to Ariel Dynamics for servicing. If there are any problems with this arrangement could you
please e-mail me ASAP. Regards Don Gordon Electronic/Computer Technician Human Movement
Department University of Western Australia Dear Don;
You will have to establish modem connection to our office and then we will fix it.
Don't do anything until we try to fix it through the modem
Hope to hear from you
Gideon Ariel
At 11:47 AM 11/18/98 +0800, you wrote:
>>>>
Dear Sir/Madam Currently we are running the Ariel APAS-CES software on a AST Bravo
486/25 BIOS Rel 1.10 with 4 MByte of RAM. The system has been performing smoothly for
numerous years until now. The system boots to the DOS menu where the APAS-CES software is
selected. The software continues to load until the sysmenu.exe needs to be executed. At
this stage the system sounds a short beep and hangs with a blank screen. If you use
Ctrl+Break, the menu appears. The sysmenu.exe file is 167,138 bytes in size and is dated
3-26-96. If any of the software is selected using the APAS pull down menu, the number
14000 briefly flashes on the screen followed by the system hanging. A reboot is required
at this stage. Can you give us any possible solution to the above. Yours Sincerely Don
Gordon Electronic/Computer Technician Human Movement Department University of Western
Australia
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 13:09:40 +1000
From: Jennifer Manning <jennifer.manning@dtsy.qld.gov.au>
To: gideon@arielnet.com
Subject: Hi and Help!!!
Content-Disposition: inline
Hi Gideon,
It is Jennifer Manning from the Queensland Academy of Sport in Australia. Our new upgrade
of the APAS system has been working really well. That was until my computer crashed and I
lost all of the programs I had installed on my computer. I have reinstalled the program
however, need to get the new codes from you.
The site code I have is DBEA 94C5 7FB7 1E65 86 and the
Key Code is TOOOOOOX-OMTJ56. I hope this is not too much trouble for you.
Thank you for your assistance and looking forward to hearing from you soon.
Regards,
Jennifer Manning
Jennifer Manning
Scientific Officer - Biomechanics
Performance Enhancement Centre
Queensland Academy of Sport
PO Box 8103 Woolloongabba QLD 4102
Ph: 07 3404 3239 Fax: 07 3404 3205
Email:manninj@dtsy.qld.gov.au
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Ariel Dynamics, Inc.
4891 Ronson Court
Suite F
San Diego, California 92111 USA
(619) 874-2547 Tel
(619) 874-2549 Fax
Email: ARIEL1@ix.netcom.com
Web Site: /
+++++++++++++++++++++
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 14:38:18 +1000 (EST)
From: Kevin Ness <Kevin.Ness@jcu.edu.au>
To: Gideon Ariel <gideon@arielnet.com>
Subject: Re: your mail
Hello Gideon,
No problem all went well with 9.1. (actually 9.0 installed OK this morning
- no problem with setup. I don't think I did anything different from
yesterday - I just ran setup again from my temp directory.)
Any idea of the cost of Computer Board Inc. A/D converter?
You had better tell me how to pay for the APAS software - because if I
don't spend the money very soon they (the uni) will take it back. I was
at the AIS (Australian Institute of Sport) about a week ago. An ex-student
of mine is using the APAS system for kinematic analysis of various track
and field athletes. He's happy with it. I trust his judgement - he was my
best student. I don't have the time over the next month to give it a full
test drvie myself. So let me know the details and I'll organise the
payment.
Regards, Kevin.
From: suncg@medicine.snu.ac.kr (Sun G. Chung)
To: "Gideon Ariel" <gideon@arielnet.com>
Subject: Re: About site code.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 08:58:39 +0900
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Dear Dr. Ariel,
It works so fine on the APAS98 but is not accepted on APAS-dos.
Are the code same for the APAS98 and APAS-dos?
Sun
Hi Sun:
The code is different for DOS and Windows. YOu must generate a site code for DOS so we can
issue you the Site Key for DOS
Let me know
Gideon
Hello Steve and John,
I am assuming that you are using the Intel Smart Video Pro III capture
board. This message sometimes occurs after additions or deletions to the
software and can be resolved by re-installing the software for the Intel
frame grabber. I do not think there is anything wrong with your video cables.
Please let me know your results.
Sincerely,
John Probe
>X-Sender: arielnt1@pop-ext.FOUR.net
>Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:11:55 -0800
>To: steve.blackburn@sunderland.ac.uk (BLACKBURN Steve)
>From: Gideon Ariel <gideon@arielnet.com>
>Subject: Re: FW: Advise about auto-digitising
>Cc: jbrond@pop.mfi.ku.dk, Wise80x86@aol.com, john@arielnet.com
>
>Hi Steve:
> We will analyze it and send you advise.
> Gideon
>
>
>At 09:06 AM 1/19/99 GMT, you wrote:
>>
>>
>> ----------
>>From: RUSHWORTH John
>>To: BLACKBURN Steve
>>Subject: RE: Advise about auto-digitising
>>Date: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 8:55AM
>>
>>steve,
>>Can you send this onto Gideon.
>>The connection on the VCR rear panel is a RS 232 type. Since we have
>>problems capturing the video images there must be a cable that is not
>>functioning properly. There are two cables coming out of the rear VCR
panel
>>and into the computer base unit. Therefore it is likely to be one of
these
>>that is problamatic as when attempting to activate the Capture module in
>>the windows 95 setting there is a message saying PROBLEM CONNECTING TO VCR.
>>
>>Since we can operate the video to play images on the monitor screen by
>>pressing the play, stop function buttons on the VCR itself and not from
>>using the mouse buttons and the function keys present in the Capture module
>>there must be a problem with one of the cables. Therefore the cable that
>>allows the video image to be viewed is fine but there is a problem with the
>>cable that allows you to control the image and therefore capture the
desired
>>frames by using the function keys within the Capture program. I think that
>>this cable is the one that goes from the computer base unit parallel port
to
>>the RS 232 adaptor on the back of the VCR and not the cable that connects
>>the S-VHS port on the VCR to the S-VHS port of the Video card on the base
>>unit.
>>
>>Can you send this message to Gideon or John Probe and distinguish which
>>cable allows the computer to control the VCR function keys. Also we need
to
>>know what type of cable this is so that we can order a new one and solve
the
>>problem.
>>
>>Thanks
>>John.
>> ----------
>>From: BLACKBURN Steve
>>To: RUSHWORTH John
>>Subject: FW: Advise about auto-digitising
>>Date: Friday, January 15, 1999 2:58PM
>>
>>
>> ----------
>>From: Gideon Ariel
>>To: BLACKBURN Steve
>>Cc: john
>>Subject: Re: Advise about auto-digitising
>>Date: Monday, January 11, 1999 4:19PM
>>
>>Hi Steve:
>> You should be able to controll the VCR. What connection do you have?
>>RS-232?
>>Did you download our newest version from our web site?
>>What cable are you using.?
>> Hope to hear from you
>>Gideon
>>
>>
>>At 10:34 AM 1/11/99 GMT, you wrote:
>>>
>>>Dear Gideon,
>>>
>>>Thanks for advise you gave me earlier. I have another problem which you
my
>>
>>>be able to help me with. I am using the APAS for Windows system but I am
>>>having difficulties controlling the VCR from the computer, thus I am
unable
>>
>>>to capture any data. Could you tell me whether the connection from S-VHS
>>>Out to the computer is a special type of cable, as a technician has
already
>>
>>>tried to repair once before.
>>>
>>>I will be grateful of any help you can offer.
>>>
>>>Yours
>>>
>>>Steve
>>>
Hi Gail,
The hardware that we are currently using is as follows:
Pentium/PentiumII 200MHz (or greater)
16 MB RAM (minimum)
2 GB Hard Drive (or greater)
Iomega Buz Capture Card
Windows 98
The current software should work on your current hardware, assuming that
you pugrade the software to Windows 95/98. The hard disk that you have 850
MB is getting to be pretty small. I would recommend that you get a minimum
of a 2GB hard drive, preferably 4GB or more.
Do you plan on installing the software on the Pentium 75 computer? Or, are
you going to use a completely new computer and leave the "old" P75 for a
workstation?
The easiest method to purchasse the software would be to send us a check
for the $500 and download the software from the internet. As soon as we
receive full payment for the software, we will issue a SITE KEY (by Email)
to "unlock" the software for unlimited use. Without the SITE KEY, the
software will work for a period of 14 days from installation.
Please contact me for any additional information or if you need a faxed
quotation.
Sincerely,
John Probe
At 08:50 AM 1/19/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi John,
>
>Thanks for your message. Since we last talked we've bought a
>new capture card, one that we're sure is compatible with Windows
>98, so we're back in business. I think we'd like to upgrade our
>software. Are there any hardware specifications we should know
>about, before we do? Assuming we want to go ahead, what would
>be the easiest way to order and pay for the upgrade?
>
>Cheers!
>Gail
>
>> Hi Gail,
>>
>> How have things been going since the last time we communicated?
>>
>> I understand from Gideon that you are interested in the $500 upgrade to
>> your APAS system. I just wanted to make certain that you knew this was
>> software only! There is no hardware included for this price.
>>
>> Please contact either Gideon or myself for any additional information.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> John Probe
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Ariel Dynamics, Inc.
>> 4891 Ronson Court
>> Suite F
>> San Diego, California 92111 USA
>> (619) 874-2547 Tel
>> (619) 874-2549 Fax
>> Email: ARIEL1@ix.netcom.com
>> Web Site: /
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>
>***********************************************
>Gail Frost, PhD
>School of Recreation Management and Kinesiology
>Acadia University
>Wolfville, NS
>B0P 1X0 (902) 585 1560
>
>
X-Sender: ariel1@popd.ix.netcom.com
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 15:30:38 -0800
To: Antnio Veloso <apveloso@mail.telepac.pt>
From: Ariel <ariel1@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Proforma invoice
Cc: gideon@arielnet.com
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Hello Antonio,
Attached you will find the requested prices to add the Ariel Analog module
to your existing system. Please remember the items we discussed on the
telephone.
1. There are only 2 slots available (1 ISA and 1 PCI)
2. The current A/D card we sell is PCI version
3. If you add a network card, it must be ISA model.
4. I will check on the compatibility with Bertec Plates.
I recommend that you personally check the computer to make certain that I
am correct.
Listed below you will find the requested quotation.
Please contact me for any additional information.
Sincerely,
John Probe
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
PROFORMA INVOICE #990119AV
To: J.A. Veloso Lda.
Attn: Antonio Veloso
Phone: 011 351 1 458 0902
Fax: 011 351 1 458 0902
ITEM # ITEM DESCRIPTION Unit$
PRICE
1 1 ARIEL Analog - 16 A/D Channels Hardware &
Software $9,000.00
Includes:
Internal A/D Converter Board (PCI Version)
Ariel 16 Channel A/D Input Box & Cable
ARIEL Analog Software Module
----------------------------------------------------------
SUB TOTAL:
$9,000.00
SHIPPING CHARGES: $195.00
-----------------------------------------------------------
TOTAL BALANCE: $9,195.00
Notes: 50% Payment Required With Purchase Order, Balance Prior To
Shipping
Prices Listed in USD
Price Quotation Valid For 30 Days and Supercede
Any Previous Quotes
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
At 10:23 PM 1/19/99 +0000, you wrote:
>Hello John
>
>Please send me the prices of the analogue board to add to the system we just
>receive. Remember that it should work with a Bertec force plate. We need
>this prices urgently
>
>
>The Apas System was sold to:
>
>Faculdade de Ciencias do Desporto e de Educao Fsica da Universidade do
Porto
>(Faculty of Sport sciences and Physical Education Oporto University
>Biomechanics Department
>Head: Joo Paulo Vilas-Boas PhD
>Adress: Rua Dr. Plcido Costa, 91,
>4200 Porto
>Phone: int 351 2 5500677
>
>Tanks
>
>Best regards
>
>Antnio
Hello Dr. Chung,
How are you? We are all doing fine. I will provide answers to your
questions below.
>Would you like to answer my questions below?
>
>Where can I find the file format of basic files of APAS that is *.3d,
*.1t, *.ana, *.cf.
> I remember that they were somewhere in your HOmepages. Now, your
homepage grew so large that I cannot find them. Could you tell me the place
or give me the information?
>
The address for the APAS-DOS manuals is:
/APAShelp/DOS/adw-56.html
You should look in the Appendix section and you will find the file formats.
Hello Doug,
I will provide answers below each of your questions.
At 10:41 AM 4/23/99 +1000, you wrote:
>John
>
>John
>
>Sorry to keep bothering you.
>
>Have talked to my boss - he has given the OK to download one package
>initially ( due to budget constraints) but we will buy more in the near
>future.
>
This sounds good!
>The computer that is dedicated to APAS is not on the Net. Are there any
>problems associated with downloading the software to another PC and then
>transfering the software to the APAS PC via direct cable link?
>
There are no problems with downloading the software and transferringit to
any number of computers. The software downloaded from the internet is
valid for 30 days from the date of installation. The file that you
download is in a self extracting zip file.
>I am considering renewing the Windows 95 software and the Office
>applications on the APAS PC prior to the download. Do you invisage problems
>being created in doing this?
>
If possible, I would recommend that you install the software on a new
computer. There are no problems expected, however, I would not want you to
be without an APAS in case there were any problems.
>Does the new APAS software support > 8 character file names?
>
Yes, the new software is 32 bit applications designed for Windows 95/98.
Long file names are fully supported.
>Is it necessary remove all traces of the old version of the APAS software on
>the APAS PC before loading the new software?
>
Actually, I think you can install the new version in addition to the
existing version. I will check your equipment file when I get to the
office tomorrow to make certain.
>Will the new software have the Dos modules included?
>
The APAS DOS software can also be downloaded from the internet. The DOS
software will require an additional Site Key but there is no extra charge.
I hope this information is helpful. Please contact me for any additional
questions.
Sincerely,
John Probe
>Thanks for your help so far
>
>doug
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ariel [mailto:ariel1@ix.netcom.com]
> Sent: Friday, 23 April 1999 9:00
> To: Doug Rosemond
> Subject: RE: Zip Drive
>
> Hello Doug,
>
> This is an answer to both questions. If you plan on
>attending the ISBS in
> Perth, you could possibly take the Zip Disk with you and let
>Dr. Ariel
> attempt to resolve the problems. You would have to
>communicate directly
> with Dr. Ariel on this issue.
>
> I think the most efficient solution would be to download the
>latest
> software. This would also provide you with all the latest
>updates.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> John Probe
>
>
> At 03:43 PM 4/22/99 +1000, you wrote:
> >John
> >
> >Is the proposal an answer to the failed Zip drive or an
>answer to the cost
> >of upgrading ot the ISBS software offer or an answer to
>both?
> >
> >Doug
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gideon Ariel
>[mailto:ariel1@ix.netcom.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, 22 April 1999 14:24
> > To: Doug Rosemond
> > Subject: Re: Zip Drive
> >
> > Hello Doug,
> >
> > I have discussed your situation with Dr.
>Ariel. He
> >suggested that you
> > download the latest version of software from
>the Ariel
> >internet site for a
> > cost of $500 USD per computer. This
>software normally sells
> >for $5,000.00
> > USD.
> >
> > This will allow you to put the software on
>any number of
> >systems that you
> > have in your lab for minimal cost.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > John Probe
> >
> >
> >
> > At 05:16 PM 4/21/99 +1000, you wrote:
> > >Hello john
> > >
> > >Have you got any news on failed Zip disk?
> > >
> > >Also - is it possible for the AIS pay for
>an upgrade ot the
> >ISBS system
> > >offer - if so what would it cost per item?
> > >
> > >Doug
> > >
> > >
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > John Probe
> > Ariel Dynamics, Inc.
> > 4891 Ronson Court
> > Suite F
> > San Diego, California 92111 USA
> > (619) 874-2547 Tel
> > (619) 874-2549 Fax
> > Email: ARIEL1@ix.netcom.com
> > Web Site: /
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >
> >
>
>
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
John Probe
Ariel Dynamics, Inc.
4891 Ronson Court
Suite F
San Diego, California 92111 USA
(619) 874-2547 Tel
(619) 874-2549 Fax
Email: ARIEL1@ix.netcom.com
Web Site: /
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Hi Gideon;
Indeed, it was the problem.
I have another problem however: In the process of installing the new version it seems that
I lost the capability of transferring the license to another directory. Whenever I execute
a program and get to the licensing panel, the license option is not available anymore. I
have this on 3 of the 6 workstations I have! I have attached a jpeg file to show you
what I get. Hence, I cannot update these workstations and this is a real drawback!
Also, I reported an installation bug on all workstation but the NT (unable to install APAS
on another directory thant that proposed). I think I found the problem. It may be helpful
to some of your customers. I don't have the problem if I disconnect the workstation from
the networks ( I have a Banyan Vines server and a NT server).
Regards,
Normand
At 16:30 29-04-99 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi Normand:
> This is the problem. The new 3.2 is from 4/27/99
>Gideon
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Normand Teasdale <Normand.Teasdale@pmh.ulaval.ca>
>To: Gideon Ariel <gideon@arielnet.com>
>Sent: Thursday, April 29, 1999 10:34 AM
>Subject: Re: Fw: Take two!
>
>
>> Hi Gideon,
>>
>>
>> 06-04-99! for vector
>> 06-04-99 for analog as well
>>
>> I wanted to transfer my license to another computer but I don't have the
>license option anymore! I have included in attach a jpg file to show you
>that the license program says that my license is still fine but I don't
>have the license option anymore. Any idea?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Normand
>>
>> At 10:21 29-04-99 -0700, you wrote:
>> >Hi Normand:
>> > What is the date on your vector.exe program? You will find it at
>> >c:\program files\ariel dyanamics\apas\
>> >Let me know
>> >Gideon
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: Jeremy Wise <jeremy@arielnet.com>
>> >To: Normand Teasdale <Normand.Teasdale@pmh.ulaval.ca>
>> >Cc: Gideon Ariel <gideon@arielnet.com>
>> >Sent: Thursday, April 29, 1999 8:25 AM
>> >Subject: Re: Take two!
>> >
>> >
>> >> Normand-
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for letting us know. It sure sounds like the files did not make
>it
>> >on
>> >> to the WEB site, or possibly you downloaded them before they were
>placed
>> >> there. We will check into it.
>> >>
>> >> Thank you for your patience.
>> >>
>> >> Jeremy
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Normand Teasdale <Normand.Teasdale@pmh.ulaval.ca>
>> >> To: jeremy@arielnet.com <jeremy@arielnet.com>
>> >> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 3:00 PM
>> >> Subject: Take two!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >Hi Jeremy;
>> >> >
>> >> >I've checked with Gideon and he told me that your changes were on
>version
>> >> 3.2 on the web site. I've downloaded ver 3.2 and unless I am stupid
>both
>> >> problems are not fixed. I can work my around the sampling problem but
>not
>> >> the problem with vector. I suspect there has been a problem in putting
>the
>> >> updated version on the web as the PAL switch you mention in your
>previous
>> >> e-mail is not available. Thanks for checking this out.
>> >> >
>> >> >Regards,
>> >> >
>> >> >Normand
>> >> >
>> >> >Normand Teasdale (Normand.Teasdale@kin.msp.ulaval.ca)
>> >> >Universit Laval, Laboratoire de performance motrice humaine, PEPS
>> >> >Facult de mdecine
>> >> >Dpartement de mdecine sociale et prventive
>> >> >division de Kinsiologie
>> >> >Qubec, Qubec G1K 7P4
>> >> >Tl: (418) 656-2147
>> >> >Fax: (418) 656-2441
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>----
>
>
>> Normand Teasdale (Normand.Teasdale@kin.msp.ulaval.ca)
>> Universit Laval, Laboratoire de performance motrice humaine, PEPS
>> Facult de mdecine
>> Dpartement de mdecine sociale et prventive
>> division de Kinsiologie
>> Qubec, Qubec G1K 7P4
>> Tl: (418) 656-2147
>> Fax: (418) 656-2441
>
Hello Paul,
I am writing to inform you that Ariel Dynamics Inc. has received payment in
full ($7,000 USD) for your order of 1 master APAS license and 4 APAS
workstations.
You can download the software directly from the Ariel internet site and
install on your computers. You only need to download the file one time.
This single file can be used to install the software on ALL your computers.
When you install the software it will be valid for a period of 30 days from
installation. Anytime during the 30 days, you can supply Ariel Dynamics
with the System Parameter and Site Code numbers for each computer. We can
use these numbers to generate a Site Key that will "un-lock" your software
for unlimited use.
The System Paramter number is found by selecting the APASCES icon within
the APAS-System folder. The Site Code can be found by selecting ANY Ariel
software module and pressing the ENTER key when you see the message stating
how many days are left on your trial license. Accept the license agreement
and then select Display Site Code.
Thank you for your purchase and please do not hesitate to contact me for
any additional information. I look forward to receiving the information
for your 5 computers.
Sincerely,
John Probe
At 10:50 AM 4/12/99 +1000, you wrote:
>John
>
>Sorry for the delay in responding, I have raised an order for the software,
>this will be initially for one master system and an additional 4 copies
>thus a total of 5 copies.
>
>You should receive an order very shortly in the mail, we will download the
>software in a couple of weeks when our new computers arrive
>
>We will need an invoice to provide payment, send the invoice once you have
>the order
>
>Company/University Name:RMIT
> Company/University Address:124 Latrobe St Melbourne Vic 3000
> Contact Person:Paul Brown
> Phone Number:03 99257355
> Fax Number:03 94768181
> Email:paul_brown@rmit.edu.au
> Web Site: http://www.bh.rmit.edu.au/hms/
>
>Paul Brown
>Resources & Communication Manager
>Department of Human Biology & Movement Science
>Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology
>Plenty Rd Bundoora,3083, Melb., Vic., Aust.
>
>Phone (03) 99257355
>Fax (03) 94678181
>Mobile 0408 531060
>Email paul_brown@rmit.edu.au
>
>Web Address http://www.bh.rmit.edu.au/hms/
>
>
>
>
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Ariel Dynamics, Inc.
4891 Ronson Court
Suite F
San Diego, California 92111 USA
(619) 874-2547 Tel
(619) 874-2549 Fax
Email: ARIEL1@ix.netcom.com
Web Site: /
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Hi Normand:
Thank you for your message and it was nice to hear from you.
Of course !!! The Buz already has the SCSI card in it, so you need only to
get the Jaz drive and you can download directly to the cartridge at normal
speed.
Gideon
----- Original Message -----
From: Normand Teasdale <Normand.Teasdale@pmh.ulaval.ca>
To: <gideon@arielnet.com>
Sent: Monday, June 14, 1999 12:30 PM
Subject: APAS and JAZZ from Iomega
> Dear Gideon/John,
>
> Simple question. The more I work with APAS the more I enjoy it. There is
only one drawback: the more I work with it and the greater the storage
problems are getting! -:)
>
> In order to get some flexibity, I was thinking about buying an external
ultra-SCSI Jazz drive. Iomega states that it has transfer bursts going up to
20 Mb/s with the slowest rate being 4.9 Mb/s. Have you tried to realcap
directly to a Jazz drive? if not, do you think it could be possible? Is
there anyway to realcap in B/W in order to cut on the demands of realcap?
>
> Thanks for any advice.
>
> Regards
>
> Normand
>
>
> Normand Teasdale (Normand.Teasdale@kin.msp.ulaval.ca)
> Universit Laval, Laboratoire de performance motrice humaine, PEPS
> Facult de mdecine
> Dpartement de mdecine sociale et prventive
> division de Kinsiologie
> Qubec, Qubec G1K 7P4
> Tl: (418) 656-2147
> Fax: (418) 656-2441
>
Hello Dr. Oscar Rocha Barbosa.
The APAS software was originally desiged to capture images using a computer
controlled VCR. At this time, only Panasonic manufactured the necessary
VCR with the computer control interface. For this reason, we standardized
the APAS on the Panasonic equipment. However, with the new advances in
video technology, the APAS no longer requires the computer controlled VCR.
Images can be captured in Real Time directly to the hard disk using the
Iomega Buz supplied with your system.
Your APAS computer was shipped with APAS98 Revision 9.5 software. We have
had many improvements and are currently shipping APAS99 Revision 3.5
software. Ariel Dynamics always provides free software upgrades to our
customers. Therefore, I recommend that you download the latest version
from the Ariel internet site (/) and
install it on your
computer using the following steps.
1. Select START, SETTINGS and CONTROL PANEL.
2. Double-Click on the ADD/REMOVE PROGRAMS icon
3. Select the APAS SYSTEM software and then click on the ADD/REMOVE button.
4. Click YES to Completely Remove APAS System and all of its components.
5. Select NO when asked to Remove Shared Files
6. Select OK and then OK to exit the ADD/REMOVE Programs.
7. Download the latest version of APAS from /
to a
temporary directory. This file is currently APAS99WIN3_5.EXE
8. Execute the APAS99WIN3_5.EXE file to decompress the system files to the
C:\TEMP directory.
9. Select START, RUN and C:\TEMP\SETUP.EXE to install the software,
10. Select NEXT and YES to accept the License Agreement.
11. You can enter your name and Company and Serial Number if desired but
this is not required. Select NEXT to proceed.
12. Accept the default destination folder of C:\PROGRAM FILES\ARIEL
DYNAMICS\APAS and select NEXT to proceed.
13. Accept the APAS SYSTEM folder name and select NEXT to proceed.
14. Select OK to install the program.
15. Select FINISH to complete the installation.
The APAS SYSTEM folder will be created on the Windows Desktop. Double
click this folder to access the APAS software modules.
The APAS99 Revision 3.5 software provides two software modules for
capturing images to the hard disk. These programs are called REALCAP and
CAPTURE. I recommend that you use the STREAMING function in the CAPTURE
module. You can access the HELP menu to provide step-by-step intructions
for image capture.
You can also find on-line manuals and Tutorials directly on the Ariel
internet site.
Please feel free to contact me for any additional information. We are
always happy to help!
Sincerely,
John Probe
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Ariel Dynamics, Inc.
4891 Ronson Court
Suite F
San Diego, California 92111 USA
(858) 874-2547 Tel
(858) 874-2549 Fax
Email: ARIEL1@ix.netcom.com
Web Site: /
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Hello Dr. Nissan,
I will provide answers marked Ariel Dynamics, Inc (ADI) below each of your
questions.
At 01:15 PM 7/26/99 +0300, you wrote:
>Dear Ariel:
>
>I'll be most gratefull for a fast help. We are using a BUZ and Canon
>UC-V10 type cameras. I was trying to use the RealCap but could not
>start.
>
ADI: The Iomega Buz must be installed in a precise order (software first,
then hardware, then an update file). Was this done correctly? The precise
instructions are listed on the Ariel internet site at the following address:
/topics/FAQ/I_Omega_Buz_Installation.htm
>1) I got a message it is day 1 of 90. Does it mean in 90 days I'll have
>to re-enter the same code? another?
>
ADI: Yes, this message means that you have a 90 day "trial" license.
After the 90 day period, the license can be extended by purchasing a "full"
license.
>2) I got a black picture with a green upper-left corner while the VCR
>is on.
>
ADI: I have not seen any errors like this before. Please make certain
that the correct steps were followed when installing the Iomgea Buz. You
should also check the Iomega internet site (www.iomega.com)
to make certain
that the Buz will work with your hardware. There are some known problems
with the Buz and selected hardware.
>3) I choose "enable" in the capture preferences but could not keep it
>like that next time I was looking at capture. The same with all other
>choices. How can I keep my choices as preferences?
>
ADI: The Enable command allows computer control of the VCR. It must be
the correct make and model of VCR (Panasonic 7350 or 5700) with the RS-232
connectors. What is the make and model of the VCR you are connecting to
the APAS.
>4) The picture remains black but I get a red or orange square at the
>middle.
>
ADI: This does not sound familiar. Make certain that you have the correct
settings under Video Format and Video Source. This sounds like it might be
set to the wrong format.
>5) pressing any of the computer "tape buttons" resulted in an error
>message: "the program has perforned an illegal operation and will be
>shut down". The details were: "invalid page fault in module
>RealCap.EXE at 0137:0040f6de".
>
ADI: What type of computer and graphics adapter are you using?
Please let us know the answers to the questions above as this may help
diagnose the reported problem.
Sincerely,
John Probe
Email: ARIEL1@ix.netcom.com
Hello Mr. Balmer,
Thank you for your message. Please provide a detailed explaination as to
why you are "unable to proceed" with operating the APAS software. This may
help us determine any problems and assist you in operating the APAS system.
Is the problem with the software installation? Or, in operating the software?
What operating system are you using (Win95/98 WinNT)?
In order to assist customers, each APAS module has an integrated help
screen. There are also help screens on the Ariel internet site:
/Main/adw-91.html
There is also on-line tutorials at the following address:
/topics/Tutorials/default.htm
I hope this information is helpful.
Sincerely,
John Probe
Email: ARIEL1@ix.netcom.com
At 02:09 PM 8/16/99 +0100, you wrote:
>
>Dear Sir/Madam
>
>I am a lecturer of sports biomechanics at Canterbury Christ Church
>University College and I ma interested in acquiring the APAS system for
>teaching and research purposes. I have attempted to download the
>software and have completed the installation procedure. However I am
>unable to proceed. I have read the information provided on your website
>and the system software appears to be exactly what I require, however I
>would like to discuss with you what my requirements involve and which
>items I ish to purchase, please can you get back to me as soon as
>possible or give me a contact address/phone number for your UK
>distributor.
>
>Yours Faithfully
>
>James Balmer
>----------------------
>jb10@canterbury.ac.uk
>
>
8-23-99
JOHN,
Downloaded the 3mjpeg.zip file from the site you gave me (listed below).
Where should I install this driver?? I assume I can just unzip it in the correct
folder / subdirectory.
Thanks,
John Garhammer
Ariel wrote:
> Hello John,
>
> The monitor resolution should not present any problems with the setting
> that you are using.
>
> John
>
> >>
> >> >(2) Saved the trim and copied the resulting AVI file to a zip disk to
> >> >work on - digitize on my office computer. But when I try to load the
> >> >file in trim or digitize module on my office computer I get the message
> >> >"Unable to Locate Compatible Video DeCompressor" followed by
odd / even
> >> >field order question??
> >> >
> >> Yes, this message is normal also. It simply means that your system does not
> >> have a compatible video driver. Please refer to the following internet
> >> address for assistance:
> >>
> >> /topics/FAQ/Installing_Video_Driver.htm
> >>
>
> >
Hello Costas Rigas,
I will provide answers below each of your questions.
Sincerely,
John Probe
Email: ARIEL1@ix.netcom.com
At 12:20 PM 11/17/1999 +0200, you wrote:
>Dear John Probe
Question 1
===========
>Am I right that we need three or four video cameras to achieve 3D bilateral
>gait recording?
>
Answer 1
=========
The software requires a minimum of 2 cameras to obtain 3-dimensional data,
however, there is no limit to the number of cameras that can be used with
the APAS. Although individual situations vary, most users find that 2 or 3
cameras provide accurate 3D data measurements. Some users use an
additional camera as a backup (just in case one of the other cameras does
not record for some reason).
Question 2
==========
>What sort of cameras would be needed? Can you indicate prices?
>
Answer 2
=========
The Basic APAS ($11,500) system does not include cameras. Cameras are sold
as options in addition to the Basic APAS and may include (but not limited
to) any of the following items.
VHS format camcorder(s) $1500 USD per camera
SVHS format camcorder(s) $3500 USD per camera
Digital 60/120Hz camcorder(s) $3500 USD per camera
High Speed (250-2000 Hz) Starting at $15,000 USD per camera
Question 3
===========
>Do we need one frame graber per camera?
>
Answer 3
=========
The Basic APAS includes a single multi-media compatible frame grabber that
is capable of grabbing either NTSC or PAL format video. Only one frame
grabber is required as each camera view is captured to the computer hard
disk one at a time. The video source can be a camera, VCR etc.
Question 4
===========
>How many frames per second can the frame graber record?
>
Answer 4
=========
The number of images captured depends upon the video format. NTSC format
video is 30 frames (or 60 fields) per second while PAL format video is 25
frames (or 50 fields) per second. The frame grabber is capable of
capturing either of these formats in real-time from a single camera.
The 120 Hz camera provides an additional option of capturing 120 images per
second, however, these images are 1/2 height and can be captured using the
same frame grabber.
Question 5
===========
>Does your software work on both three and four camera setup?
>
Answer 5
=========
See Answer #1 above. The Basic APAS supports both 2D and 3D data analysis.
The only difference between 2D and 3D is the number of cameras that are
used. The APAS will support any number of cameras. Any system that limits
the user to 2D analysis is simply playing marketing games.
Question 6
===========
>Are the reflective markers of special make or we can make our own?
>
Answer 6
=========
There is nothing special about the markers. They can be made of almost
anything. The software only requires that there be a good contrast between
the marker and the immediate background. For example, white markers agains
a black background (or vice versa).
Question 7
===========
>How many markers can your software distinguish?
>
Answer 7
=========
The current version of APAS software supports up to 40 markers. How many
markers do you require?
Question 8
===========
>Has any Ariel system been deployed in Greece?
>
Answer 8
=========
There are several APAS systems already in Greece.
Democritus University of Thrace
Olympic Athletic Center of Athens (old 286 APAS system)
Aristotalee University of Thessaloniki
>Many thanks
>
>Sincerely
>
>Costas Rigas
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Ariel <ariel1@ix.netcom.com>
>To: <krigas@cc.uoi.gr>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 11:04 PM
>Subject: Requested Ariel Information
>
>
>> Hello Costas Rigas,
>>
>> Thank you for viewing the Ariel internet site and your interest in the
>> Ariel Performance Analysis System (APAS).
>>
>> The Basic APAS system is sold internationally for $11,500 USD and includes
>> the following:
>>
>> 450 MHz computer
>> 8 GB hard disk drive
>> 64 MB RAM
>> 1.44 MB Floppy Drive
>> CD-ROM
>> Multi-Media compatibel frame grabber
>> Windows 98 Operating System
>> Ariel 2D and 3D analysis software
>>
>> The Ariel software includes capabilities for panning cameras and automatic
>> digitizing functions.
>>
>> Please feel free to contact me for any additional information. I would be
>> happy to assist.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> John Probe
>>
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Ariel Dynamics, Inc.
>> 4891 Ronson Court
>> Suite F
>> San Diego, California 92111 USA
>> (858) 874-2547 Tel
>> (858) 874-2549 Fax
>> Email: ARIEL1@ix.netcom.com
>> Web Site: /
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
HI Tony,
Sorry about the delay. In answer to your questions, this
is the equipment I would suggest for a complete Orthopedic, Physical
Therapy Clinic:
1. CES Arm/ Leg/ Back Unit
2. CES Multifunction Unit
3. APAS with Analog function
4. EMG/ on CES and APAS
All the above will be less than one Cybex.
The next step would be to add a force plate. Gideon will
handle pricing with you.
Now you have a complete laboratory capable of (and I cannot
think of all possibilities here):
1. Exercise rehabilitation (closed and open loop).
2. Rehab cardiac training.
3. Rehabilitation test and measurement (bilateral limb comparison).
4. Weight loss work training.
5. Precision athletic training for strength, explosive speed and
endurance.
6. Biofeedback for sports and rehabilitation training.
7. Personal fitness and rehab training without the trainer being present
(program and walk away, exerciser can take self through program.
8. With addition of APAS, precision measurement of performance for
cervical spine, lumbar spine, shoulder, elbow, wrist, and total body
gait.
9. Ground reaction forces for gait, sports actions, lift posture.
10. Sports performance evaluations for any sport, including equine.
11. Balance testing and training platform.
12. Dynamic EMG monitoring for Exercise and Performance events.
13. Back to work DELTA lift analysis capability.
14. Job site analysis, etc.
If your funds are limited, CES or APAS first depends on the needs of
the clinic. If primarily training and physical therapy, definitely
CES. If test and measurement orientated, definitely APAS.
However, you cannot beat the combination of tools.
As to report capability, each system has the ability to print any
data that appears on the screen. You can select and combine
any combination of data, kinematic, kinetic, CES, etc. for presentation.
Further, you can do like I do, export the raw data and do a custom
report on Excel or Matlab. The advantage of this is that you
can have a multi page report, customized, created and recreated in
minimal time. I can help you design these reports.
I am sure Gideon will address costs with you. I can help you
show the cost effectiveness of the equipment and how to get multi level
return on your investment.
As I mentioned earlier, if you give me more feedback on the client, I
can send you complete reports illustrating how we use the systems for
various situations.
Hope this is a helpful start. I am awaiting your next round of
questions. I am sure you will have many more.
Personally, I would love you to implement a system in SA so we can come
back and visit. I miss the Rock Lobster, Prawns and wine!
Bob
ps- Check my slide show on Gideon's website for workers compensation
stuff.
/topics/humana1/index.htm
Hello Olivier,
We are currently using the STUDIO DV capture board made by Pinnacle
Systems. However, any frame grabber that is IEEE 1394
"FireWire"
compatible should work with the JVC camera.
The STUDIO DV board includes capturing software, however, the
"high-speed"
video has to be extracted into single images. JVC accomplishes the
"high-speed" by slitting the full size image into either half
or quarter
size. I have attached a description that helps to explain this
process.
This is written for NTSC format, but the same principle applies to the
PAL
version cameras.
The Ariel Software Drivers for the JVC camera are required to access the
100 and 200 Hz video. These software drivers are NOT included in
the Basic
APAS software and would have to be purchased separately at a cost of
$3,500.00 USD. NOTE: Also it is recommended to use the SP
mode (not LP
mode) for recordings.
I hope this helps to answer your questions.
Sincerely,
John Probe
Email: ARIEL1@ix.netcom.com
At 07:11 PM 12/02/2000 +0100, you wrote:
>hi john,
>thank you for your answer;
>
>>If the JVC-9700 camera supports the "high-speed" video
mode, then you will
>>require additional software to access the high speed options.
The
>>standard mode should work just fine.
>
>yes, the JVC-9700 camera supports the "high-speed" video
mode (100 and 200
>frames/sec in PAL);
>so what is the best product and model to use with APAS for
high-speed video
>capture including this additional software (i think it can extract
each
>half frame per image!);
>
>thanks
>olivier
>
>_____________________________________________________
>Olivier MARTIN (olivier.martin@ujf-grenoble.fr)
>UFRAPS - Universite Joseph Fourier - BP53
>38041 GRENOBLE Cedex 09 - FRANCE
>tel. int + (0)4 76 51 41 95 (secr.) / 41 99 (lab.) / 41 89 (perso.)
>fax. int + (0)4 76 51 44 69
>
Hello Jiji,
Dr. Ariel has forwarded your message to me
for a response. It appears that you have a Sony camera (PAL
format). Once you capture the video to a Microsoft compatible
AVI file. the next step is to open the APAS TRIMMER module. Then
follow the steps listed below.
1. Select FILE, OPEN AVI (or select
the AVI icon).
2. Select OPTIONS, VIDEO to open the
Video Options menu. This menu is used to specify several
options.
Field Order - used to
specify the order for the video fields to be displayed. When the
video frame is separated into the odd and even field, some computers
play the even field first, while others play the odd field first.
This option is used to set the correct order for your computer.
This is a one-time setting for each computer.
Separate Fields - This
option is used to indicate whether the fields need to be separated or
not. When using the computer controlled VCR option for video
capture, the individual fields are captured separately and this option
should be set to NO (since the fields are already separated).
When capturing in real-time, this option is usually set to YES since
the entire video frame (consisting of two fields) is captured.
Speed - This option is
used to specify the video speed of the captured video. Unless
you are using the JVC High Speed camcorder, this option is usually set
to 60/50 Hz.
Additional information on these items can
be found in the Trimmer Module pull-down help menu. Select
OPTIONS, and then VIDEO OPTIONS.
Please feel free to contact us for any
additional information.
Sincerely,
John Probe
Ariel Dynamics, Inc.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 2:24 PM
Subject: Jiji
Hello Gideon
My problem at home with my Sony camera , which is doing only 25 frames
second, is that when I want to trim :
- I 've in the option / video of the trimer "separate
fields" yes or no
If I put yes , between two image, I've the a little come back
If I put no , I'll have the 2 image both together .
How can I correct that , and if its'nt possible, what protocole of
trim do
you propose me.
How do you functionne when you have not the JVC highspeed camecorder
?.
Have a good night
Jiji
Hello Donna,
There are several programs available for the printing, graphing and
export
functions. A brief description of them is listed below.
APAS2TEXT - used to export the data for each individual point that has
been
digitized. This data is exported to ASCII format so the user can
perform
"custom" analysis.
APASVIEW - Used to simultaneously display graphs, video, spreadsheet
data.
DISPLAY - Very similar to APASView but also includes ability to export
the
graphed data to worksheet format for additional analysis by Lotus, Excel
etc.
Each of these modules also have the Windows pull-down help files for
additional information.
I hope this helps to answer your questions.
Sincerely,
John Probe
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donna Ziarkowski" <donnaz@uplink.net>
To: "Gideon Ariel" <ariel1@ix.netcom.com>
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 4:20 AM
Subject: Re: APAS Video Codecs
> John,
>
> Could you tell me what function in APAS 2000 has replaced the
> "graphing" function of APAS 1997? I am able
to digitize, transform and
> filter but am not quite sure how to graph and export.
>
> Thank you, once again, for your assistance.
>
> Donna
>
Hello Daniel,
This sounds like it might be a problem with the "Image Order"
setting. You
can access this setting in the Trim module by selecting the pull-down
Help
menu. Then select OPTIONS, VIDEO OPTIONS
A brief explaination of this setting (copied from the help file) is
listed
below:
===============
FIELD ORDER
A standard video picture is made up of odd and even lines across the
screen.
Television standards require these lines to be interlaced. This
means only
half of the lines are displayed in one field. The first (odd) set
of lines
is displayed in the first field while the second (even) set of lines is
displayed in the second field. These two fields comprise a frame,
which is
a complete picture.
Depending on the hardware and software combinations used for recording
and
displaying the AVI files, it is possible for the order of the displayed
fields to be reversed. For this reason, the Ariel TRIM program
provides the
option to specify the order for displaying the AVI files.
If it appears that the images are "jerky" or are being
displayed in a
"zigzag" manner, the field order probably needs to be
reversed. The field
order is specified using the following steps.
1. Select the OPTIONS menu to display the list of video options.
Left-click either Normal or Reverse in the FIELD ORDER section.
The current
selection is indicated by the black dot to the left of the option.
NOTE:
When this option is changed, it affects all other APAS software modules
where the AVI file can be displayed (Capture, Digitize, Display, Vectors
etc.)
2. Select OK to proceed and save changes or CANCEL to abort.
======================
I hope this helps to answer your questions. Please contact us for
any
additional information.
Sincerely,
John Probe
Ariel Dynamics, Inc.
Email: ARIEL1@ix.netcom.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "D Benoit" <dbenoit@magma.ca>
To: <john@arielnet.com>
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 8:08 AM
Subject: noise problem
> Hi John,
>
> I am attempting to combine a 100hz camera view with 3 50hz views.
When I
> loook at the raw data, and when I a digitising also, it seems that
the
> images hoping back and forth.
>
> ie: the movement is going one frame forward, one frame back so that
after
> analysis, the movement seems to have a consistant noise pattern.
>
> I am pretty sure it has to do with the frame rate-field rate
relationship.
> I am capturing using studio-DV at 25 fps and then digitising at 50.
When
i
> go to the trim module, it reads as 50 and 100hz respectively, which
I
think
> is correct.
>
> any suggestions?
>
> Daniel Benoit
> Direttore Ricerca Scientifica
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>
Hello Meghan Spyres,
Thank you for your message. I have
checked the software and everything seems to operate as it should.
If you have 60 Hz video and wish to digitize every tenth image, there
there are two settings to be aware of. The first is in the View
Information Menu. You will see the option for "Frame
Rate" This should be set as follows:
Frame Rate = 60 Hz / (1
+ Skip Value)
In your case, you would like to digitize
every 10th image. In other words, you wish to digitize one
image, skip 9 images and digitize another, skip another 9 etc.....
Frame Rate = 60 Hz /
(1+9) = 60/10 = 6
The next point you will see when you open
the AVI file in the Digitizing Module. You will notice a value
for "SKIP"
In your situation, this should be set to
9.
Now you digitize normally, however, when
you select the Advance command, you will notice that the AVI file will
advance by 10 images. You can also notice the time value in the
lower left corner of the digitizing window. This value will
advance by:
Time Increment = 0.017
seconds/image x 10 images = 0.17 seconds
The value of 0.017 seconds represents the
time value between images at 60 Hz.
1/60 = 0.017
I hope this makes sense and corrects the
problem you are reporting. Please refer to the attached file for
pictures of the menus mentioned above. Feel free to contact us
for any additional information.
Also, note that the address to our San
Diego office changed effective October 5th, 2001. The new address is
listed below. E-mail, telephone and fax information remains
unchanged.
Sincerely,
John Probe
Ariel Dynamics, Inc.
4885 Ronson Court, Suite A
San Diego, CA 92111
>
>I am having trouble with the digitization portion of the APAS
system. I would like it to digitize only every 10th frame so I
set the frame rate to 6 (true rate/skip rate +1) and the skip rate
shows to be 9 as expected. When it digitizes the data,
however, it fails to skip any frames.
>Thank you,
>Meghan Spyres
>(Trimmer Lab Tufts University)
Hello Ellen,
I will provide answers below each of your questions.
Please contact me for additional information.
Sincerely,
John Probe
Ariel Dynamics, Inc.
Email: ARIEL1@ix.netcom.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "CELee" <hg_2lee@twu.edu>
To: "Ariel" <ariel1@ix.netcom.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: new APAS system
> Hello John,
>
> Thanks for the info. How much time will the "new" system
save in terms of
> digitization as compared to the old system we have now (based on a
sampling
> duration of 25sec)?
>
ADI: The real time saving aspect of the current system lies in the
Capture/Synchronizing part. The Digital Video cameras can be
connected
directly to the computer and captured simultaneously using the CAPDV
software module. This module also lets the user specify an audio
synchronizing event and the time before/after the event for trimming.
Thus
the multiple AVI files are synched and trimmed in one step. They
are now
ready for digitizing. I am not sure if you are currently using the
Windows
Digitizing module, however, this software allows multiple views to be
opened
and digitized simultaneously.
I cannot accurately provide a "time savings" number without
seeing what is
actually being performed now. However, you do have the option to
download
the software to one of your new computers and test it for 30 days
without
any commitment. (We do not want to load it to an existing APAS
computer!)
The computer should be a minimum of a Pentium II, 233 MHz and 64 MB RAM.
This would allows you to "see" and try the software for
yourself. You could
use all the APAS modules, however, if you do not have the digital video
hardware, you would not be able to use the CAPDV module.
> You have quoted some prices for us previously on some of the
components of
> the "new" system, ie.:
> - APAS 2D/3D Software: $5,000.00 (ie. assuming we get our own
computer)
> - Two JVC High Speed Camera w/ Ariel Software Drivers: $5,000.00
each
> Are these the
same as the Digital Video (i-Link, FireWire
> compatible) camcorders that you mentioned in your last email?
> - Digital Video Frame Grabber: $450.00 each
>
ADI: These prices are correct, however, you should note that JVC
has
recently discontinued the High Speed camcorders and the replacement
model
does not have the high speed function. Any Digital Video camcorder
that is
IEEE 1394 (FireWire) compliant should work fine with the APAS. We
just used
JVC because of the high-speed options.
> How much will the CAPDV Software Module cost?
>
ADI: The CAPDV software module sells for $1500.
> Thank you for your help.
>
> Ellen
>
>
> At 12:57 PM 1/22/02, you wrote:
> >Hello Ellen,
> >
> >Thank you for the message. Yes, the current APAS systems
allow direct
> >capture to the hard disk from Digital Video camcorders when
using the
> >optional CAPDV software module. However, you would have
to purchase all
new
> >hardware to accomplish this. You could use the
"new" system to capture
the
> >video and simultaneously use the "old" system to
captuer the analog data.
> >Video from the 2 cameras can be captured directly to the hard
disk and
then
> >synchronized and trimmed within the CAPDV software module.
Then you
could
> >proceed directly to the Digitizing module. In the
Digitizing module, you
> >could simultaneously digitize 2 views. There is even an
option to
transform
> >the images in real time as they are being digitized.
> >
> >The "new" system would consist of the following
items:
> >
> > New Pentium Computer with Basic APAS
2D/3D software
> > CAPDV Software Module
> > Digital Video Frame Grabber (one
required for each camera)
> > Digital Video (i-Link, FireWire
compatible) camcorders.
> >
> >Please contact me for any additional information.
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >
> >John Probe
> >Ariel Dynamics, Inc.
> >Email: ARIEL1@ix.netcom.com
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "CELee" <hg_2lee@twu.edu>
> >To: "Ariel" <ariel1@ix.netcom.com>
> >Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 6:57 PM
> >Subject: Re: new APAS system
> >
> >
> > > Hello John,
> > > Sorry for bouncing you such a vague question which was
thrown at me
today.
> > > Here are the specifics of our new project:
> > > Task: repeated sit-to-stand task for 5 reps
> > > Sampling duration: 20-25 secs
> > > Cameras: 2
> > > Analog channels: 3 forces, 4 EMG, 1 seat switch and 1
initiate
> > > With the sampling duration and cameras we use, will the
new system be
able
> > > to record directly into the computer? In the our current
system,
capturing
> > > and especially digitization takes the longest time. I
guess my
question
> > > boils down to the amount of time the new system can cut
down in this
> >aspect.
> > > Thanks for your help again.
> > > Ellen
>
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